SOC344 2018 Tut8 – Shoalhaven

Why do people do ‘bad’ things? Is it because they feel bad – or because those bad things feel good? It’s not hard to find instances of terrible, scary things in popular media – youth gone wild, health epidemics, crime waves, etc. Sometimes these are beat-ups and moral panics; and sometimes they are more common than we think, or even unbelievably real. Nasty incidents of online trolling and attacks are commonplace, and mass gatherings channeling anger and even hatred occurred as recently as just over ten years ago Australia in the form of the Cronulla Riots.

But why do these things happen? What are the emotions that drive these acts? There can be a simple thrill or joy in doing the wrong thing – what Jack Katz calls the ‘seductions of crime’ – that tricks and compels some people into committing anti-social acts, but are these secretive, individualized compulsions not shaped by how we relate – or fail to relate authentically – to the people around us? Do we not deviate because we feel (and often hide) a sense of deviance, and maybe even shame? Is it shame and fear of the challenge to identities – to conventional masculine dominance, or the threat of job loss from globalization – that compels some young men to anger and violence, as Ghassan Hage has argued occurred on Cronulla Beach eleven years ago? How do all these feeling mix and feed off each other – fear, shame, repression, thrills, and anger – in the dynamics of deviance?

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5 Comments on SOC344 2018 Tut8 – Shoalhaven

Josh Coulter said : Guest Report 7 months ago

Mixed feelings and sneaky thrills are embedded in the background of people. What drives people to do ‘bad’ things? The life cycle of adolescences acts in uncontrollable ways that include fear, thrill, anger, shame and repression, each of these emotions all feed of one and other to reach the common ground of deviance. People need acceptance in social environments, if this isn’t met, they can use visible stigma to act in a violent or deviant manner, for example the Cronulla Beach riots that was triggered from cultural differences. Katz (1998, p76) states,” people can metaphorically enact the double dilemma that promotes self-consciousness”. Men are anxious about many internal inequalities from masculinity to sexual desires and pimples. This anxiety can promote crimes and appeal to younger men and woman to act out. We do ‘bad’ things because people enjoy the thrill, relief and release of deviance. #S344UOW18 #Tut8 #Shoal

Andrew Stevens said : Guest Report 7 months ago

The Cronulla Riots were a form of deviance. The Hage article looks at Zionism “Jewish Nationalism” as a contributing factor to the creation and acting out of the riots. Hage does mention that the London Tube bombings and a few other factors lead to the hatred of the Cronulla beach goers who started the riot. Be we need to understand the feelings behind people participating in the riot. Terrorism has lead to people feeling angry, shameful, repressed and upset as it alters their lives. This consistent agitation can lead to violence. In the Katz reading the author describes the feelings of committing a pizza robbery as “It’s not the taste for pizza that leads to crime, The crime makes the pizza tasty”. Justify the assaults from the criminals committing them in Cronulla their perspective would be “It’s not hating Muslims that leads to riots, but by rioting it can justify the “hating on the Muslims”” There is clearly a hidden “Deviance” against accepting Muslims, as people have become aggressive because of the Bombings and their displayed “extremism”

Amy Angeloska said : Guest Report 7 months ago

Why do we do bad things? According to Goffman he relates surface acting (Patulny 2017) as a form of deviance driven by emotions including, shame and excitement. The Cronulla riots are a good example that shows a cultural division. To keep it simple, emotions clearly shine through on some decisions you make for example fear, shame, repression, thrills and anger combined would have been compressed into the feelings of those at the Cronulla riots. I think those who do bad things get a ‘feel good’ sensation out of it. People would feel numerous sensations when doing something what is obviously “bad” which can then spark them to do continuous bad things. It is interesting through, in the sense that it can be an array of thing that make someone do bad things, jealousy and anger would have to be a massive factor I personally think however sadness, anger and thrill like I said previously are definitely contributing factors. However the Cronulla riots were simply a massive issue that kick stated a lot of negative influences in our society at the time not only for those involved but left a negative footprint on Australian society. Obviously having read up on it, it was a series of race riots. But it is those sorts of outbreaks that we wonder why when we are a multicultural society why are we doing such bad things like that? In my opinion I think in that scenario alcohol fuelled violence and drug use was a massive factor in why those riots go so aggressive, so quickly and could be anther reason people do ‘bad’ things. #S344UOW19 #Tut8 #Shoal

zachary ghilezan said : Guest Report 7 months ago

There are many reasons which cause someone to do bad things such as because they feel bad and because those bad things feel good to do. I have specific memories of both these cases. I remember a case from a few years ago when my favorite esports team lost. I was mad and angry that they lost as they lost in the same way they did the previous year and it felt like they weren’t trying to win. In my mind because they lost, and I was sad and angry, it gave me the right to be a downright prick to people around me, until I eventually got over it. These acts were definitely drove by anger, sadness and a bit of envy and jealousy as well. A memory I have of doing something bad which felt good to do was when I was younger staying up late after being told to go to bed. I remember 8-year-old me being told by mum or dad to go to bed. Instead I would pretend to do to bed and then sneak out the room and stay up watching tv or playing a video game. This was purely an act of deviance and thrills. I remember numerous times when I would stay up for the sake of staying up, even though I was really tired already. I believe most of the time doing bad things because they feel good or because we feel bad should be much easier to avoid as we get older. Just last year my favorite esports team lost again in the first round of the championship, but I was able to handle my emotions much better. However, in reality a lot of the time there will be stimuli in play such as prejudices, alcohol and drugs which prevent us from doing bad things even as adults.

Tiana Brown said : Guest Report 7 months ago

The portrayal of masculinity in the sports arena juxtaposes the way society reacts as a whole. The ball-tampering scandal in South Africa has created mixed feelings amongst the playing group. Furthermore, this scandal has created a divide within Australia. As a fan of the game, I am disgusted and ashamed of the players who expressed frequent disrespect towards the opposition. According to Jack Katz (1988, p.56-7), ‘the challenge in the deviant project … is experienced as an external provocation that works independently on the self.’ The constant greed and the ‘win at all costs’ attitude, from the coach to the senior playing group has created a culture that has spread throughout the whole cricketing world. Winning has come at a cost to the integrity of the game. The sledging and personal demoralising of the opposition led mainly by David Warner is the main reason Australian cricket is an international disgrace. Moreover, if Lehmann had integrity and the best interest of cricket in mind, why wasn’t Warner banned from cricket in 2013 after he punched Joe Root? Furthermore, Katz argues that ‘deviant activities enter with a self-conscious awareness that they are unsuccessfully struggling to conjure up compelling forces in the world’ (1988, p. 57). Within the dynamics of deviance, I do hope that one day Steve Smith (whom I believe is the fallout guy in this travesty), can redeem himself and becomes an immortal of cricket that we know, love and respect. #S344UOW18 #Tut8 #Shoal

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